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Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 18:14:47 -0500
From: tgrel@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Tom Grelinger)
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Subject: Re: Another winsock idea
In article <chico.211.0017F036@halcyon.com> chico@halcyon.com (Kevin Hintergardt) writes:
>Subject: Re: Another winsock idea
>From: chico@halcyon.com (Kevin Hintergardt)
>Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 23:56:08
>Keywords: Offline newsreader
>>I have been trying to find this "perfect" program for several months since I
>>started using winsock. A combination NNTP newsreader that is offline. To me,
>>it sounds a simple enough. Dial in, fire up the newsreader and post and
>>followup any messages, and receive any new ones. Disconnect and exit trumpet
>>winsock. Start a DIFFERENT program (most winsock programs want trumpet
>>winsock loaded, and a different program should work better), read any news,
>>write replies, store them until the next time one is logged in.
>>I am a CS major but have never worked in anything related to communications
>>programming or Windows programming, but if someone wants to take a stab at it,
>>I would be happy to test the program for them.
>That kinda 'grab and go' system works great for email where you know that
>everything is intended for you. In newsgroups, I suspect you don't actually
>download most articles. Having them automatically DL everything you subscribe
>to would take more modem time than scanning through them in the normal
>fashion. You'd eat lots of bandwidth DLing everything in alt.binary.*
>groups whether you wanted them or not.
I would definitely make it option to d/l headers, highlight the ones a person
wants, and then the newsreader would go back and d/l those. I skip most of
the articles in this newsgroup for instance, and would like to highlight the
ones I want, and then have it d/l those specific articles. That is what I
used to do with Windows CompuServe Information Manager a lot of time when I
used to be a member (Sep 91-Jan 94). That particular program would only do it
online while others will do it offline.
>For such a scheme to work, you'd need logic to control which articles
>get downloaded, either based on size or content. Either way, you'd risk
>missing something interesting but unexpected.
Each person's logic. Obviously, people with kill files could weed out headers
of messages they do not even want to scan.
>Clients COULD be smarter about downloading the next group's titles while
you >look at another group's articles and letting you put big downloads in the
>background. This would cut down on user interaction time and overall modem
>time. In a cooperative network, clients need to keep in mind overall network
>bandwidth in addition to 'user's-butt-in-seat' time.
That would be a start.
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